[Skim-app-users] unable to set preferences?

[Schneider]

I prefer to ALWAYS "Zoom to Fit". So I set that but it does not stick
even if I "Use Current View Settings as Default". What am I doing
wrong? This seems to have happened after a recent Skim upgrade or Mac
OS X "upgrade" to 10.10.5.

Tom

Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D.
Senior Investigator
National Institutes of Health
National Cancer Institute
Center for Cancer Research
Gene Regulation and Chromosome Biology Laboratory
Molecular Information Theory Group
Frederick, Maryland 21702-1201
https://schneider.ncifcrf.gov (current link)
https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms (permanent link)

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[Christiaan Hofman]

Post by Schneider
I prefer to ALWAYS "Zoom to Fit". So I set that but it does not stick
even if I "Use Current View Settings as Default". What am I doing
wrong? This seems to have happened after a recent Skim upgrade or Mac
OS X "upgrade" to 10.10.5.
Tom

If you always want to zoom to fit, you should use “Automatically Resize”, that’s what it does. That is a setting, a setting that says that the zoom level is automatically adapted so the PDF fits its view. The menu item “Zoom to Fit” is *not* a setting, it is an action to set the zoom level to a particular value (that’s based on the current layout). So if you save that situation, you save that zoom level, not the fact that it fits. It has always been this way.

Christiaan

[Schneider]

If you always want to zoom to fit, you should use "Automatically
Resize", that's what it does. That is a setting, a setting that says
that the zoom level is automatically adapted so the PDF fits its view.
The menu item "Zoom to Fit" is *not* a setting, it is an action to set
the zoom level to a particular value (that's based on the current
layout). So if you save that situation, you save that zoom level, not
the fact that it fits. It has always been this way.

Thanks as always for a precise and clear explanation. I suppose that
I "knew" that several years ago but I can't see what the settings are
when I "Use Current View Settings as Default". Maybe there could be a
way to make that visible. Then I (and others) would know what is
being saved as "settings" and what the options for them are.

Regards,

Tom

Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D.
Senior Investigator
National Institutes of Health
National Cancer Institute
Center for Cancer Research
Gene Regulation and Chromosome Biology Laboratory
Molecular Information Theory Group
Frederick, Maryland 21702-1201
https://schneider.ncifcrf.gov (current link)
https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms (permanent link)

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[Schneider]

If you always want to zoom to fit, you should use "Automatically
Resize", that's what it does. That is a setting, a setting that says
that the zoom level is automatically adapted so the PDF fits its view.
The menu item "Zoom to Fit" is *not* a setting, it is an action to set
the zoom level to a particular value (that's based on the current
layout). So if you save that situation, you save that zoom level, not
the fact that it fits. It has always been this way.

This didn't work. I want two things. First, I want my PDF window to
be as large as possible on the screen so I can read it. Second, I
want the PDF to fill the window as closely as possible but not waste
space.

With "Automatically Resize", I'm getting a tiny window that is filled.
I have to resize the window for every PDF. If I turn off
"Automatically Resize", then at least the window is large each time.

Tom

Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D.
Senior Investigator
National Institutes of Health
National Cancer Institute
Center for Cancer Research
Gene Regulation and Chromosome Biology Laboratory
Molecular Information Theory Group
Frederick, Maryland 21702-1201
https://schneider.ncifcrf.gov (current link)
https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms (permanent link)

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[Christiaan Hofman]

Post by Schneider

If you always want to zoom to fit, you should use "Automatically
Resize", that's what it does. That is a setting, a setting that says
that the zoom level is automatically adapted so the PDF fits its view.
The menu item "Zoom to Fit" is *not* a setting, it is an action to set
the zoom level to a particular value (that's based on the current
layout). So if you save that situation, you save that zoom level, not
the fact that it fits. It has always been this way.

This didn't work. I want two things. First, I want my PDF window to
be as large as possible on the screen so I can read it. Second, I
want the PDF to fill the window as closely as possible but not waste
space.
With "Automatically Resize", I'm getting a tiny window that is filled.
I have to resize the window for every PDF. If I turn off
"Automatically Resize", then at least the window is large each time.
Tom
Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D.

You must have chosen the "open files” size as Fit. When you use “Automatically Resize” as default view setting, that assumes a scale factor of 100%. That is because there is an ambiguity, because you have chosen to 1) fit the window to the PDF (Fit) and 2) fit the PDF scale to the window (Automatically Resize), that’s undetermined so we have to make a choice for you (which is 100%). So you should save “Automatically Resize” and in addition open the window either as Default size (lat used window size), or Maximized (fill the screen minus the Dock and Menu bar).

Christiaan

[Schneider]

You must have chosen the "open files" size as Fit. When you use
"Automatically Resize" as default view setting, that assumes a scale
factor of 100%. That is because there is an ambiguity, because you have
chosen to 1) fit the window to the PDF (Fit) and 2) fit the PDF scale
to the window (Automatically Resize), that's undetermined so we have to
make a choice for you (which is 100%). So you should save
"Automatically Resize" and in addition open the window either as
Default size (lat used window size), or Maximized (fill the screen
minus the Dock and Menu bar).

Thanks! That works so far in my tests using Default size.

Tom

Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D.
Senior Investigator
National Institutes of Health
National Cancer Institute
Center for Cancer Research
Gene Regulation and Chromosome Biology Laboratory
Molecular Information Theory Group
Frederick, Maryland 21702-1201
***@mail.nih.gov
https://schneider.ncifcrf.gov (current link)
https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms (permanent link)

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