[Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing under Sierra

[Chirok Han]

Hi all,



Skim.app is excellent. I use it all the time.



I have a question about Skim's behavior when refreshing a pdf file. Under El Capitan, when Skim.app reloads a pdf, the viewing position was preserved the same. For example, if I was viewing the bottom of a page, the position is still the same.



But this changed after I upgraded the OS to macOS Sierra, which I regret. Now refreshing makes Skim.app jump to the page top. For example, if I was viewing the middle of page 3, after the pdf file is changed (usually by pdflatex), Skim.app changes the position to the top of page 3. On my other mac running El Capitan, the position does not change. It's only under Sierra that the position jumps to the top of a page. The version is 1.4.21 (95) on both machines.



Would there be a way to avoid the position change under Sierra?



Thank you.



Chirok

[Christiaan Hofman]

Post by Chirok Han
Hi all,
Skim.app is excellent. I use it all the time.
I have a question about Skim's behavior when refreshing a pdf file. Under El Capitan, when Skim.app reloads a pdf, the viewing position was preserved the same. For example, if I was viewing the bottom of a page, the position is still the same.
But this changed after I upgraded the OS to macOS Sierra, which I regret. Now refreshing makes Skim.app jump to the page top. For example, if I was viewing the middle of page 3, after the pdf file is changed (usually by pdflatex), Skim.app changes the position to the top of page 3. On my other mac running El Capitan, the position does not change. It's only under Sierra that the position jumps to the top of a page. The version is 1.4.21 (95) on both machines.
Would there be a way to avoid the position change under Sierra?
Thank you.
Chirok

I have had several reports about problems in automatic scrolling in Sierra. It looks like PDFKit has a bug there, when we tell it to scroll to some position it often does not do that. I have reported a bug about this already, but it looks to be a more general problem than I thought at first. Unfortunately there is nothing we can do about this, Apple needs to fix this in PDFKit.

Christiaan

[Chirok Han]

Many thanks for your quick reply. I'll then have to consider downgrading to El Capitan.



Chirok





From: Christiaan Hofman <***@gmail.com>
Reply-To: For general discussion about using Skim <skim-app-***@lists.sourceforge.net>
Date: Thursday, 22 September 2016 at 11:51 PM
To: For general discussion about using Skim <skim-app-***@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing under Sierra





On Sep 22, 2016, at 16:46, Chirok Han <***@gmail.com> wrote:



Hi all,



Skim.app is excellent. I use it all the time.



I have a question about Skim's behavior when refreshing a pdf file. Under El Capitan, when Skim.app reloads a pdf, the viewing position was preserved the same. For example, if I was viewing the bottom of a page, the position is still the same.



But this changed after I upgraded the OS to macOS Sierra, which I regret. Now refreshing makes Skim.app jump to the page top. For example, if I was viewing the middle of page 3, after the pdf file is changed (usually by pdflatex), Skim.app changes the position to the top of page 3. On my other mac running El Capitan, the position does not change. It's only under Sierra that the position jumps to the top of a page. The version is 1.4.21 (95) on both machines.



Would there be a way to avoid the position change under Sierra?



Thank you.



Chirok





I have had several reports about problems in automatic scrolling in Sierra. It looks like PDFKit has a bug there, when we tell it to scroll to some position it often does not do that. I have reported a bug about this already, but it looks to be a more general problem than I thought at first. Unfortunately there is nothing we can do about this, Apple needs to fix this in PDFKit.



Christiaan


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[Christiaan Hofman]

Be aware that that can be dangerous. All kinds of data on your system will be upgraded, and won’t work anymore on ElCap. You should only do that if you have a backup from ElCap, and use that to install your system.

Christiaan

Post by Chirok Han
Many thanks for your quick reply. I'll then have to consider downgrading to El Capitan.
Chirok
Date: Thursday, 22 September 2016 at 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing under Sierra

Post by Chirok Han
Hi all,
Skim.app is excellent. I use it all the time.
I have a question about Skim's behavior when refreshing a pdf file. Under El Capitan, when Skim.app reloads a pdf, the viewing position was preserved the same. For example, if I was viewing the bottom of a page, the position is still the same.
But this changed after I upgraded the OS to macOS Sierra, which I regret. Now refreshing makes Skim.app jump to the page top. For example, if I was viewing the middle of page 3, after the pdf file is changed (usually by pdflatex), Skim.app changes the position to the top of page 3. On my other mac running El Capitan, the position does not change. It's only under Sierra that the position jumps to the top of a page. The version is 1.4.21 (95) on both machines.
Would there be a way to avoid the position change under Sierra?
Thank you.
Chirok

I have had several reports about problems in automatic scrolling in Sierra. It looks like PDFKit has a bug there, when we tell it to scroll to some position it often does not do that. I have reported a bug about this already, but it looks to be a more general problem than I thought at first. Unfortunately there is nothing we can do about this, Apple needs to fix this in PDFKit.
Christiaan
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[Chirok Han]

I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. I'll have to find a way.



Chirok



From: Christiaan Hofman <***@gmail.com>
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Date: Friday, 23 September 2016 at 12:02 AM
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Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing under Sierra



Be aware that that can be dangerous. All kinds of data on your system will be upgraded, and won’t work anymore on ElCap. You should only do that if you have a backup from ElCap, and use that to install your system.



Christiaan



On Sep 22, 2016, at 16:57, Chirok Han <***@gmail.com> wrote:



Many thanks for your quick reply. I'll then have to consider downgrading to El Capitan.



Chirok





From: Christiaan Hofman <***@gmail.com>
Reply-To: For general discussion about using Skim <skim-app-***@lists.sourceforge.net>
Date: Thursday, 22 September 2016 at 11:51 PM
To: For general discussion about using Skim <skim-app-***@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing under Sierra





On Sep 22, 2016, at 16:46, Chirok Han <***@gmail.com> wrote:



Hi all,



Skim.app is excellent. I use it all the time.



I have a question about Skim's behavior when refreshing a pdf file. Under El Capitan, when Skim.app reloads a pdf, the viewing position was preserved the same. For example, if I was viewing the bottom of a page, the position is still the same.



But this changed after I upgraded the OS to macOS Sierra, which I regret. Now refreshing makes Skim.app jump to the page top. For example, if I was viewing the middle of page 3, after the pdf file is changed (usually by pdflatex), Skim.app changes the position to the top of page 3. On my other mac running El Capitan, the position does not change. It's only under Sierra that the position jumps to the top of a page. The version is 1.4.21 (95) on both machines.



Would there be a way to avoid the position change under Sierra?



Thank you.



Chirok





I have had several reports about problems in automatic scrolling in Sierra. It looks like PDFKit has a bug there, when we tell it to scroll to some position it often does not do that. I have reported a bug about this already, but it looks to be a more general problem than I thought at first. Unfortunately there is nothing we can do about this, Apple needs to fix this in PDFKit.



Christiaan


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[Christiaan Hofman]

I put test version at <http://skim-app.sourceforce.net/Skim.dmg>.Perhaps you can download and try it out, to see if it fixes your reload positioning problem, and report back?

Christiaan

Post by Chirok Han
I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. I'll have to find a way.
Chirok
Date: Friday, 23 September 2016 at 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing under Sierra
Be aware that that can be dangerous. All kinds of data on your system will be upgraded, and won’t work anymore on ElCap. You should only do that if you have a backup from ElCap, and use that to install your system.
Christiaan

Post by Chirok Han
Many thanks for your quick reply. I'll then have to consider downgrading to El Capitan.
Chirok
Date: Thursday, 22 September 2016 at 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing under Sierra

Post by Chirok Han
Hi all,
Skim.app is excellent. I use it all the time.
I have a question about Skim's behavior when refreshing a pdf file. Under El Capitan, when Skim.app reloads a pdf, the viewing position was preserved the same. For example, if I was viewing the bottom of a page, the position is still the same.
But this changed after I upgraded the OS to macOS Sierra, which I regret. Now refreshing makes Skim.app jump to the page top. For example, if I was viewing the middle of page 3, after the pdf file is changed (usually by pdflatex), Skim.app changes the position to the top of page 3. On my other mac running El Capitan, the position does not change. It's only under Sierra that the position jumps to the top of a page. The version is 1.4.21 (95) on both machines.
Would there be a way to avoid the position change under Sierra?
Thank you.
Chirok

I have had several reports about problems in automatic scrolling in Sierra. It looks like PDFKit has a bug there, when we tell it to scroll to some position it often does not do that. I have reported a bug about this already, but it looks to be a more general problem than I thought at first. Unfortunately there is nothing we can do about this, Apple needs to fix this in PDFKit.
Christiaan

[Chirok Han]

Superb! This works beautifully. Your test version fixes the reload positioning problem. Many thanks!!!



Chirok



From: Christiaan Hofman <***@gmail.com>
Reply-To: For general discussion about using Skim <skim-app-***@lists.sourceforge.net>
Date: Friday, 23 September 2016 at 9:08 AM
To: For general discussion about using Skim <skim-app-***@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing under Sierra



I put test version at <http://skim-app.sourceforce.net/Skim.dmg>.Perhaps you can download and try it out, to see if it fixes your reload positioning problem, and report back?



Christiaan



On Sep 22, 2016, at 17:06, Chirok Han <***@gmail.com> wrote:



I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. I'll have to find a way.



Chirok



From: Christiaan Hofman <***@gmail.com>
Reply-To: For general discussion about using Skim <skim-app-***@lists.sourceforge.net>
Date: Friday, 23 September 2016 at 12:02 AM
To: For general discussion about using Skim <skim-app-***@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing under Sierra



Be aware that that can be dangerous. All kinds of data on your system will be upgraded, and won’t work anymore on ElCap. You should only do that if you have a backup from ElCap, and use that to install your system.



Christiaan



On Sep 22, 2016, at 16:57, Chirok Han <***@gmail.com> wrote:



Many thanks for your quick reply. I'll then have to consider downgrading to El Capitan.



Chirok





From: Christiaan Hofman <***@gmail.com>
Reply-To: For general discussion about using Skim <skim-app-***@lists.sourceforge.net>
Date: Thursday, 22 September 2016 at 11:51 PM
To: For general discussion about using Skim <skim-app-***@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing under Sierra





On Sep 22, 2016, at 16:46, Chirok Han <***@gmail.com> wrote:



Hi all,



Skim.app is excellent. I use it all the time.



I have a question about Skim's behavior when refreshing a pdf file. Under El Capitan, when Skim.app reloads a pdf, the viewing position was preserved the same. For example, if I was viewing the bottom of a page, the position is still the same.



But this changed after I upgraded the OS to macOS Sierra, which I regret. Now refreshing makes Skim.app jump to the page top. For example, if I was viewing the middle of page 3, after the pdf file is changed (usually by pdflatex), Skim.app changes the position to the top of page 3. On my other mac running El Capitan, the position does not change. It's only under Sierra that the position jumps to the top of a page. The version is 1.4.21 (95) on both machines.



Would there be a way to avoid the position change under Sierra?



Thank you.



Chirok





I have had several reports about problems in automatic scrolling in Sierra. It looks like PDFKit has a bug there, when we tell it to scroll to some position it often does not do that. I have reported a bug about this already, but it looks to be a more general problem than I thought at first. Unfortunately there is nothing we can do about this, Apple needs to fix this in PDFKit.



Christiaan



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